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Andrew The Scribbler's avatar

I find it one of those things that I just shake my head at the absurdity of it all. Ironically, at one point it was called the Gulf Of Florida. I think Claudia Sheinbaum was right when she said twenty years from now, we'll still be calling it the Gulf of Mexico.

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Alley Valkyrie's avatar

yes, I believe Sheinbaum was correct. "Freedom fries" comes to mind.

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Daniel Hanrahan's avatar

I have a different perspective on the topic. I think the attempted renaming of the Gulf of Mexico is not merely a distraction. Rather, it is one aspect of the dark revolution that the neofascist vanguard is attempting to engineer.

- Specifically, it is the cultural and linguistic aspect of the power grab. Ironically, given conservatives' traditional hatred of communist China, the neofascist vanguard is seeking to engineer a Cultural Revolution in tandem with their destruction of all aspects of the state that do not service the billionaire class. They do not like that our culture includes expression of dignity and strength by and about non-white people and non-straight people. This offends them and they are seeking to purge all such expressions out of our language and culture. The renaming/reverting of Denali in Alaska to Mount McKinley within the same executive order as the Gulf of Mexico/ Gulf of America edit confirms this observation, I think.

- I agree with George Orwell and other scholars of authoritarianism that imposing changes on the language is a crucial aspect of tyranny, as language is so central to our perception of reality.

- The Trump administration considers this issue very important and takes it quite seriously, as they have forbidden the AP from attending press briefings and being on Air Force One simply for their refusal to employ the term "Gulf of America."

- There is evidence to suggest that Trump is on board with seeking to establish the technate of North America, as envisioned by Elon’s grandfather, who was chased out of Canada for his participation in the fascist Technocracy movement. I will link to a brief Medium piece I wrote about this, but suffice to say that similar to Curtis Yarvin's idea of dividing up the world into authoritarian tech spheres of influence, the technocracy movement envisioned Canada, the US, Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean and Greenland as all one area to be ruled from DC. There is much in Trump's rhetoric and behavior that suggests is quite interested in the idea. And renaming the Gulf of Mexico would be a linguistic element of this enterprise.

https://medium.com/@danhanrahan-45285/understanding-the-technate-plan-4b072cb37ac7

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Alley Valkyrie's avatar

I think it could be a bit of both, I also think that there's a difference between the aims of Trump himself and the aims of those pulling his puppet strings. Yes, it's absolutely about erasing non-white and non-straight people. I think that it's *also* being used as a distraction. I blame the media more than Trump himself in what I'm observing, they're overall in his pocket and on his side. I think that there are those within his administration that would love nothing more than to establish the technate of North America, but I wouldn't credit that to Trump himself.

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Josh Liveright's avatar

Also let us not forget good old Amerigo Vespucci who is one of the great colonizing leaders. This whole Americas thing is lost on the numbskull modern colonizers of UStatia.

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Alley Valkyrie's avatar

Yeah, that's something that I didn't mention in this piece but was also on my mind. Also the simple fact that as far as the rest of the Americas are concerned, "America" is not a synonym for the US. Trump was obviously acting from a place of American exceptionalism in his renaming scheme, but Mexico is actually part of America as well.

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White Squirrel's Nest's avatar

Yes everyone else reminds of that. But there's isn't really a better demonym. When I'm trying to be less U.S. centric especially online ( which I'm inconsistent about) I say from the States or the States. I am perfectly happy to say Yank. I consider The South (TM) to be virtually a different country anyway! Most languages I'm aware of use some version of "America" in their own language. In China the name they use means "beautiful country". (This is Mariah from the Pagan internets btw)

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Alley Valkyrie's avatar

"Yank" is a subject that is on my list of things to write about one day, there's a *lot* going on there :)

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White Squirrel's Nest's avatar

I should check for a better source for this, but according to a YouTube I watched it Yankee was originally a nickname (somewhat derogatory )for Dutch people based on the common name Jan. But later it became specifically for "old stock" New Englanders, so basically an older term for WASPs. So that's the sense that white Southerners used it, like "those snooty Yankees". Though most white Southerners descended from old colonists are also mainly English or Scotch- Irish (outside of Louisiana & Florida and nearby areas) I may have written your post for you, 😆

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Alley Valkyrie's avatar

yes, that's how I understand it as well. But then who is and isn't a Yank expands greatly depending on geographic context. For those outside the US, all Americans are Yanks. Inside the US, as a whole, Northerners are Yanks. Above the Mason-Dixon line, it's understood that it's specifically Northeasterners that are Yanks. Ask a Northeasterner, and it's New Englanders that are Yanks. And a New Englander will default to the old-school definition that you cite, that it's a very specific type of old stock WASP who is a Yank.

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White Squirrel's Nest's avatar

Yes exactly I knew it meant just American outside U.S. mainly I've heard British people use it. Canadians generally seem to call us Americans even if they grumble about it a bit.

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